Rihanna- "Take A Bow"

[Mega248]

Not a hot Madonna remake, but not bad.

[blahblahblah]

It's okay. I'm surprised that she needed to re-release her album already to s*** out a single from it. There are some better and more mindless upbeat tracks that would've worked better as singles.

[krazymack]

The song is cute and all, but it has an unmemorable factor to it. With that said, it isn't my favorite from her. It is just a nice "little" ol' song to me.

[a Nick O!]

This is kinda dull. And come to think about it, "Don't Stop the Music" never really was all that great. I'm not surprised at how much it's dropping. Although it was better than "Hate That I Love You." I think "Shut Up and Drive" is actually my second favorite single from the record.

[jcmf3]

I listened to the first minute of the song on All Access and turned it off. Why does this almost have a +1000 bullet on pop? I don't get it. Maybe I need to listen to the whole thing a few times to get it, but this seems overrated.

[sparta]

May 1, 2008 22:02:23 GMT -4 jcmf3 said:

I listened to the first minute of the song on All Access and turned it off. Why does this almost have a +1000 bullet on pop? I don't get it. Maybe I need to listen to the whole thing a few times to get it, but this seems overrated.

I absolutely agree. When I saw it jumping up the chart when it leaked or whatever, I expected a somewhat decent song. Far from it, lyrics are a joke. Although she has a tendency to have awful lyrics.

[friday]

Yeah, this is a step or two below the album's other singles. I remember looking for her album on last.fm to see if it was streamable, and being surprised this wasn't on there, then I put two and two together; it's a f***ing re-release situation. I just hope it doesn't detriment the performance of her collaboration with Maroon 5 (which, in addition to being on her re-release, is apparently also going to be on a re-release of their album ). That song sounded pretty hot based on the 1 1/2 times I heard it.

[krazymack]

May 1, 2008 22:02:23 GMT -4 jcmf3 said:

I listened to the first minute of the song on All Access and turned it off. Why does this almost have a +1000 bullet on pop? I don't get it. Maybe I need to listen to the whole thing a few times to get it, but this seems overrated.

The song has officially grown on me. I'm starting to feel this song more now.

[Mega248]

+1122? Are you kidding me? It's not that the song's terrible, it's just that it doesn't sound like a hit at all. Yet it's probably about to become her biggest to date. All it needs is 2 weeks at the top.

[a Nick O!]

Jun 7, 2008 14:24:04 GMT -4 Mega248 said:

+1122? Are you kidding me?

Ugh. That's just sickening.

[friday]

Well, if this has to be the song that ends Leona Lewis's reign at #1, the way I see it, there could be worse songs that do it (such as, say, the one directly behind it this week).

[a Nick O!]

F**k "Sexy Can I." That's a contender for worst song of 2008. And it got all the f***ing way up to #2!!!!!!!!!!!

I just hope Leona doesn't last 3 more weeks to tie or overthrow the 12-week record held by Donna Lewis (whoa, same last name! I just blew my own mind. They must be sisters!) and her "I Love You Always Forever" from 1996. Only because I've preferred that song over every song that's ever come close to breaking the record.

[krazymack]

I really liked "I Love You Always Forever" back in the day, but come on now, I can admit that the song was overrated. She was just a one hit wonder and no sizable follow up hits. I think "Bleeding Love" was sung with more passion than the Donna Lewis song. It actually sounds like a hit. I wouldn't mind her breaking Donna's record. Leona has more potential of being a long term diva.

Does anyone know the run of Natalie Imbruglia's "Torn" at the top of the pop charts? Now that song is also superior than "I Love You Always Forever" by miles.

[Mega248]

I like "I Love You Always Forever" a lot too, but let's face it, 12 years have passed and it's time for that record to be tied or broken. And besides, the only songs that look capable of stopping that from happening are "Take A Bow" and "I Kissed A Girl", neither of which deserve the top spot at all.

[crash46]

Jun 18, 2008 7:56:08 GMT -4 krazymack said:

Does anyone know the run of Natalie Imbruglia's "Torn" at the top of the pop charts? Now that song is also superior than "I Love You Always Forever" by miles.

That one was up there for nine weeks.

[a Nick O!]

Jun 18, 2008 7:56:08 GMT -4 krazymack said:

I really liked "I Love You Always Forever" back in the day, but come on now, I can admit that the song was overrated. She was just a one hit wonder and no sizable follow up hits. I think "Bleeding Love" was sung with more passion than the Donna Lewis song. It actually sounds like a hit. I wouldn't mind her breaking Donna's record. Leona has more potential of being a long term diva.

Does anyone know the run of Natalie Imbruglia's "Torn" at the top of the pop charts? Now that song is also superior than "I Love You Always Forever" by miles.

Sure its 12 weeks at #1 were excessive, but what does it matter that she was essentially a one-hit wonder (because no one remembers "Without Love")? And passion is arguable, since "Bleeding Love" was written to be belted a la Whitney Houston or Mariah Carey and "ILYAF" wasn't.

(I like "ILYAF" significantly more than "Torn," fwiw.)

Jun 18, 2008 16:42:47 GMT -4 Mega248 said:

I like "I Love You Always Forever" a lot too, but let's face it, 12 years have passed and it's time for that record to be tied or broken. And besides, the only songs that look capable of stopping that from happening are "Take A Bow" and "I Kissed A Girl", neither of which deserve the top spot at all.

I, too, wouldn't be against a new song taking the record from "ILYAF" at this point, I just want it to be a song I like as much or better. Heck, if "The Way I Are" or "Apologize" had racked up that amount, I'd have no problems with them getting 12 or 13 weeks at #1. (Those are just 2 recent #1's I could think of.)

But I'd rather the inferior "Take a Bow" or even "I Kissed a Girl"...(well why don't we just focus on "Take a Bow" for now) dethrone "Bleeding Love" than have the inferior "Bleeding Love" break or match the record of "ILYAF."

[crash46]

Jun 19, 2008 1:37:00 GMT -4 a Nick O! said:

...but what does it matter that she was essentially a one-hit wonder (because no one remembers "Without Love")?

Not to mention that "At The Beginning" duet with Richard Marx is probably still among the 100 most played songs at handicap-accessible two-story department stores. I hear "Without Love" all the time too. Sure they aren't the biggest ringtone hits out there, but it isn't like they're lost forever either.

[krazymack]

It matters due to any individual's examination of chart data of Donna Lewis' career as a music artist. It is possible for someone to assess a song like ILYAF and draw comparisons with Donna's successive singles to know that the first track was probably rated too highly (Considering her "artistry" on a whole).

Donna has had ILYAF for 12 weeks at #1, then "Without Love" which peaked at #17 for three weeks. That's a big difference, plus Donna has had no significant top 40 radio airplay hits after that. One would wonder as to WHY the first track had quite that longevity. (Especially with ILYAF spending ALL of them weeks atop of the charts) Airplay records are signs of approval ratings from the radio stations. But history is history and you can't change what has happened. It is possible to judge an artist for what their worth through their song's individual creativeness and/OR through examining a particular song's chart history and comparing it to the chart performance of the other songs by the artist.

Besides, ILYAF only hit #1 in America, she didn't manage to have a #1 in any other country. Leona's "Bleeding Love" has hit #1 in multiple countries. Her big voice a la Whitney and Mariah-esque style suggests that she may be long term. And we all know Whitney and Mariah's captivating voice scored them multiple #1's and top 10 hits. So Leona's longevity at the top seems warranted.

It is also quite fine for ILYAF or any other of Donna's songs to play at the Mall of America of something and I'm a proud American so more power to her. Like I said I never disliked her only #1 song if you want to get emotional about it. But ILYAF is an overrated hit when you look at chart data, no matter which angle you want to put it. Donna has had no hits to measure up to the success of ILYAF period. Therefore her artistical status could be in question.

[a Nick O!]

Jun 19, 2008 22:11:05 GMT -4 crash46 said:

Not to mention that "At The Beginning" duet with Richard Marx is probably still among the 100 most played songs at handicap-accessible two-story department stores.

Jun 19, 2008 22:11:05 GMT -4 crash46 said:

I hear "Without Love" all the time too.

Lucky! [/Napoleon Dynamite]

(No worries, I own the mp3)

Jun 19, 2008 23:46:23 GMT -4 krazymack said:

It matters due to any individual's examination of chart data of Donna Lewis' career as a music artist. It is possible for someone to assess a song like ILYAF and draw comparisons with Donna's successive singles to know that the first track was probably rated too highly (Considering her "artistry" on a whole).

Donna has had ILYAF for 12 weeks at #1, then "Without Love" which peaked at #17 for three weeks. That's a big difference, plus Donna has had no significant top 40 radio airplay hits after that. One would wonder as to WHY the first track had quite that longevity. (Especially with ILYAF spending ALL of them weeks atop of the charts) Airplay records are signs of approval ratings from the radio stations. But history is history and you can't change what has happened. It is possible to judge an artist for what their worth through their song's individual creativeness and/OR through examining a particular song's chart history and comparing it to the chart performance of the other songs by the artist.

Besides, ILYAF only hit #1 in America, she didn't manage to have a #1 in any other country. Leona's "Bleeding Love" has hit #1 in multiple countries. Her big voice a la Whitney and Mariah-esque style suggests that she may be long term. And we all know Whitney and Mariah's captivating voice scored them multiple #1's and top 10 hits. So Leona's longevity at the top seems warranted.

It is also quite fine for ILYAF or any other of Donna's songs to play at the Mall of America of something and I'm a proud American so more power to her. Like I said I never disliked her only #1 song if you want to get emotional about it. But ILYAF is an overrated hit when you look at chart data, no matter which angle you want to put it. Donna has had no hits to measure up to the success of ILYAF period. Therefore her artistical status could be in question.

See, I don't care about any of that. I don't care about measuring her overall contribution to music. I am perfectly fine, though, with that song holding the airplay record for most weeks at #1 for all this time, but wouldn't be against a song I like as much or more breaking her song's record. I just don't want it to be "Bleeding Love."

But if you're gonna take ILYAF to task because Donna never came close to repeating its success, then we'll have to throw "Torn" and Natalie Imbruglia under your bus, too. I hope you're comfortable with that.