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Post by crash46 on Oct 21, 2005 21:11:57 GMT -4
The song from 2001 that nobody seemed to like. Most people still don't. It was well on its way towards the top 10--I think it made it into the top 10 for one week. Then 9/11 took place, and a monumental collapse occured; one whose magnitude has since only been matched by The Dixie Chicks after their fateful night in England. Can't say I was into this song either, up to then. After it fell, I gave it another shot. I felt bad for these guys and this song; the band was just at the wrong place and wrong time with this song, and the R and R board at the time was full of a bunch of elitist snobs that thought the only artists belonging at Alternative were the likes of Jeff Buckley, Bjork, Modest Mouse, Starsailor, and Gob, and they predictably s*** all over this song. And I grew to like it. The song earned a mention in the film "Fahrenheit: 9/11", cited as one soldier's favorite song to blast while he drives his tank through Iraq. One of the best parts of the movie. . A copy of the Alternative Chart for the week of the 'collapse' (from the now-defunct gavin.com):
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Post by halo19 on Oct 22, 2005 2:47:40 GMT -4
Well, then I'm probably closer to an elitist snob. I don't hate it as much as I used to, but still think "Bodies" is atrocious. IMHO, it's an insult to the Alternative chart. Even more than "Headstrong" being the #1 song of 2003 (or any year, for that matter). It's not a good song. A lot of people I know seem to like it, though. One person said he hated rock music, then someone mentioned "Bodies" and he said he liked that one. I was thinking, "of all of those rock songs, you like the most obnoxious one?".... Besides, with songs like "Left Behind" (maybe did fit, but really bland) and "Greed" being considered Alt., I can't disagree that much with the "elitist snobs". It wasn't a complete reward; Default's atrocious song debuted then. I still hate it. The one I think was unfairly flacked at was "Because I Got High". As for "Bodies", it's only unfair because of the reasons. But the right things can happen for the wrong reasons
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Post by Mega248 on Oct 23, 2005 21:01:39 GMT -4
I thought this was atrocious too to begin with, but soon after it tumbled 10-41 on R&R it became somewhat of a guilty pleasure.
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Post by jcmf3 on Oct 24, 2005 11:52:17 GMT -4
How the heck was Hemorrhage still on that chart? Was this still during a "under 25 and 3 weeks without a bullet" rule from R&R? I didn't know that extended to the Alternative chart as well.
Another observation - that chart also shows a mini-collapse of Jimmy Eat World's Bleed American.
Anyways, back on topic - I hated this song. It was just stupid and atrocious.
[red]crash46's edit: I accidentally hit the "modify" button here when I meant to hit the "quote" button. I'm still not used to the new controls. My mistake.[/red]
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Post by Mega248 on Oct 24, 2005 12:36:17 GMT -4
How the heck was Hemorrhage still on that chart? Was this still during a "under 25 and 3 weeks without a bullet" rule from R&R? I didn't know that extended to the Alternative chart as well. The chart he posted is the Gavin chart, which didn't have a recurrent rule.
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Post by a Nick O! on Oct 24, 2005 13:39:20 GMT -4
For me, "Bodies" is just a catchy, disposable hard rock song. So is "Sinner." "Tear Away," while not intellectually stimulating either, was of a slightly higher lyrical caliber and because it rode a slow tense groove and proved they had definite melodic sensibilities, I felt it was their best song. Poor Dave Williams.
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Post by crash46 on Oct 24, 2005 13:47:06 GMT -4
Yeah, that was the most ridiculous one of them all, I'll say. And I don't think I've even heard the song on the radio since then. And then they (or more likely, Interscope) go and change their album title from Bleed American to a self-titled.
I've been saying this for years. The title of the song is:
"Bleed American".
Not:
"Bleed, American".
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Post by radical347 on Oct 25, 2005 1:22:40 GMT -4
"Bodies" ended up being too funny to be terrible to me, although I remember a brief period of time where I hated it.
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Post by a Nick O! on Oct 25, 2005 17:49:59 GMT -4
Yeah, that was the most ridiculous one of them all, I'll say. And I don't think I've even heard the song on the radio since then. And then they (or more likely, Interscope) go and change their album title from Bleed American to a self-titled. I've been saying this for years. The title of the song is: "Bleed American". Not: "Bleed, American". I know guys like us who follow music closely understand this and I'm sure most PD's do too. However, I think we all underestimate the sensitivity of that time and the horrifying anguish for those who lived anywhere close to New York or had relatives or loved ones who perished that day. I mean, if you're one of those people, there's no way in hell you would've wanted to hear angry songs with the repeated phrases, "Click, click, boom!" or "Let the bodies hit the floor!" or hear a DJ mention a song (or album) called "Bleed American" or even "Bleed" for that matter (Cold's ballad with Aaron Lewis that was retitled "Thirteen"). And let's not forget "Speed Kills" which was officially changed just in time to "The People That We Love," or The Crystal Method's best (yet bomb) single, their duet with Scott Weiland, "Murder," retitled "You Know It's Hard." I was not directly affected by 9/11 in any way, therefore, in addition to being peeved by these changes, I was capable of scheming ( not making or wearing!) a despicably tasteless (but personally hilarious) Halloween costume: Uncle Sam with the back halves of two model airplanes jammed into burned-out holes in the shirt or jacket.
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Post by radical347 on Oct 26, 2005 1:54:47 GMT -4
Yeah, that was the most ridiculous one of them all, I'll say. And I don't think I've even heard the song on the radio since then. And then they (or more likely, Interscope) go and change their album title from Bleed American to a self-titled. I've been saying this for years. The title of the song is: "Bleed American". Not: "Bleed, American". I mean, if you're one of those people, there's no way in hell you would've wanted to hear angry songs with the repeated phrases, "Click, click, boom!" or "Let the bodies hit the floor!" or hear a DJ mention a song (or album) called "Bleed American" or even "Bleed" for that matter (Cold's ballad with Aaron Lewis that was retitled "Thirteen"). Yes and no. I wasn't affected in any direct way by 9/11; that being said, I agree with the Click Click Boom/Let the bodies hit the floor stuff, but if anything, Bleed American is more patriotic than un, and even if I was affected, I'm fairly sure I'd still think dropping that just because some people want to misinterpret the title is ridiculous.
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Post by mtm4319 on Nov 19, 2005 4:10:18 GMT -4
I remember some ridiculous list of songs that Clear Channel supposedly wanted to ban after 9/11. Basically anything with the words "plane", "jet", "fall", "bleed", "kill", or "boom" was on the list. I forget whether or not the list was actually real, though.
Oh yeah, and I considered this song a guilty pleasure, and still do to some extent.
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